Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/25/1999 03:33 PM Senate STA

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            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                    March 25, 1999                                                                                              
                      3:33 p.m.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Jerry Ward, Chairman                                                                                                    
Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                              
Senator Gary Wilken                                                                                                             
Senator Randy Phillips                                                                                                          
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PIONEER HOME REVIEW                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS SENATE COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
See Senate State Affairs minutes dated 3/18/99.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-designee Robert Poe                                                                                                
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
PO Box 110200                                                                                                                   
Juneau, AK  99811-0200                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Alison Elgee                                                                                                                    
Deputy Commissioner                                                                                                             
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
PO Box 110200                                                                                                                   
Juneau, AK  99811-0200                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
James Kohn, Director                                                                                                            
Alaska Longevity Programs                                                                                                       
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
PO Box 110211                                                                                                                   
Juneau, AK  99811-0211                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Lisa Caress-Beu                                                                                                                 
2420 Chinook Ave                                                                                                                
Anchorage, AK  99516                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Asked questions                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Marty Margeson                                                                                                                  
1401 W 13th                                                                                                                     
Anchorage, AK  99501                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Asked questions                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Bud Caress                                                                                                                      
6808 Spruce                                                                                                                     
Anchorage, AK  99507                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Asked questions                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Kathy Emmons                                                                                                                    
PO Box 770416                                                                                                                   
Eagle River, AK  99577                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT: Asked questions                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 99-7, SIDE A                                                                                                               
Number 001                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD called the Senate State Affairs Committee to order at                                                             
3:33 p.m. to continue the hearing on Alaska's Pioneer Homes.                                                                    
Present were Senators Green, Phillips, Elton and Chairman Ward.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON moved to add a letter from Mary Elizabeth Johnson to                                                              
the record.  There being no objection, CHAIRMAN WARD announced a                                                                
copy would be distributed to all committee members.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD informed those present that the Senate State Affairs                                                              
Committee held a previous hearing about perceived problems with the                                                             
Pioneer Homes.  Since that hearing, he met with Commissioner-                                                                   
designee Poe several times.  Today the Commissioner will address                                                                
the concerns expressed at the previous hearing.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE ROBERT POE, Department of Administration                                                                  
(DOA), informed committee members he visited with families, staff                                                               
and residents of the Anchorage and Palmer Pioneer Homes after the                                                               
previous Senate State Affairs Committee hearing to discuss and see,                                                             
first-hand, the concerns expressed about those Homes.  He prefaced                                                              
his discussion by saying the Pioneer Home Program is one of the                                                                 
unique things about Alaska; not many states provide similar                                                                     
programs for their long term residents, and many people have                                                                    
wonderful things to say about the Pioneer Homes.  He pointed out                                                                
many families have commented that the Pioneer Homes' staff are very                                                             
dedicated to their jobs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE said most of the concerns expressed at                                                                
the last meeting relate to the Anchorage Home, but some relate to                                                               
the Palmer Home as well.  The concerns centered around three areas;                                                             
inadequate staffing levels at the Alzheimer's Disease and Related                                                               
Dementia (ADRD) and Comprehensive Care Units; the distribution of                                                               
medications by Certified Nursing Aides (CNAs) and poor                                                                          
communication with management.  Families are concerned about the                                                                
number of medication errors that occur and RNs believe they can                                                                 
better monitor residents' health by administering medications                                                                   
themselves.  Families believe the management of the Anchorage                                                                   
Pioneer Home gives unsatisfactory responses to their complaints.                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE stated he believes the management staff                                                               
may be a bit defensive because they are very proud of the good                                                                  
things they do, but they need to be more open to constructive                                                                   
criticism.  Many of the concerns expressed are related to an                                                                    
insufficient budget; with limited funding, only so many staff                                                                   
members can be hired.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER DESIGNEE POE identified three areas where improvements                                                             
can be made, in the near future, particularly to the Anchorage                                                                  
Pioneer Home.  Regarding the administration of medication, only RNs                                                             
and LPNs will be administering medication to residents in the ADRD                                                              
and Comprehensive Care Units.  In addition, DOA will work with the                                                              
University of Alaska to develop a longer term medication                                                                        
administration program for CNAs.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The second improvement relates to the criticism that the Anchorage                                                              
Pioneer Home changed from a skilled nursing license facility to an                                                              
assisted living facility to avoid regulatory oversight.                                                                         
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE disagreed the change was made for                                                                     
regulatory reasons, and said the change was made because assisted                                                               
living homes have been shown to expand the quality of life for                                                                  
residents with ADRD.  He noted statistics show a high number of                                                                 
Pioneer Home residents have Alzheimer's Disease and related                                                                     
dementia, therefore the change to assisted living facilities was a                                                              
good response to dealing with the resident population.  However, as                                                             
residents need more medical attention in the later stages, the                                                                  
assisted living model may not be have the same beneficial effect                                                                
and a different model may be more appropriate. COMMISSIONER-                                                                    
DESIGNEE POE stated he will research what is necessary to change                                                                
the Pioneer Homes to dual-license facilities: assisted living and                                                               
skilled nursing facilities for the ADRD and Comprehensive Care                                                                  
Units.  A dual model approach will come with increased costs as                                                                 
facility and staffing changes will be required, and a request for                                                               
increased funding will have to occur.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE stated the third improvement involves                                                                 
communication between the Pioneer Home administration and concerned                                                             
families.  Last Monday he met with family members of Anchorage                                                                  
Pioneer Home residents to discuss creating family councils.  He has                                                             
committed his support to that idea, provided the group represents                                                               
a broad base of families of residents.  He offered to hire two                                                                  
consultants from Minnesota to meet with the group to provide advice                                                             
on setting up the council.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE repeated his approach to resolving the                                                                
three main areas of concern are to increase staffing levels, work                                                               
on skilled nursing facility licensure, and create family councils                                                               
to facilitate communication.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALISON ELGEE, Deputy Commissioner of DOA, and JIM KOHN, Director of                                                             
Alaska Longevity Programs, joined Commissioner-designee Poe to                                                                  
answer questions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 273                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PHILLIPS commented that at a recent constituent meeting, he                                                             
heard many uncomplimentary remarks about Commissioner-designee                                                                  
Poe's approach to the Pioneer Home complaints, and questions about                                                              
which nurses can administer drugs.  He noted most people concerned                                                              
about the Anchorage, Palmer, and Fairbanks Pioneer Homes felt they                                                              
are being patronized rather than listened to.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON acknowledged the significant amount of time spent on                                                              
this issue by Commissioner-designee Poe, Deputy Commissioner Elgee,                                                             
and Director Kohn.  He asked for DOA's position on the proposal to                                                              
move some of the oversight functions of the Pioneer Homes from the                                                              
Department of Administration to the Department of Health and Social                                                             
Services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 316                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER ELGEE responded SB 20 transfers the assisted                                                                
living licensing function from the Division of Senior Services in                                                               
DOA to the Department of Health and Social Services, and is before                                                              
this committee.  DOA supports the concept, as the assisted living                                                               
licensing functions are currently split; DOA licenses senior                                                                    
residential facilities and DHSS licenses assisted living facilities                                                             
for the developmentally disabled and mental health groups.  The                                                                 
same regulations apply to both.  DOA has been working with the                                                                  
sponsor's staff on this proposal and agrees that a combined                                                                     
function in certification and licensing is a workable idea and will                                                             
address some of the concerns raised.  MS. ELGEE pointed out the                                                                 
problem with consolidation is that both departments are                                                                         
understaffed.  Consolidation will not provide the surety that the                                                               
public is looking for.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 338                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON clarified that DOA likes the idea but believes more                                                               
funds will be required to accomplish the goal.  MS. ELGEE said that                                                             
is correct.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN questioned whether a skilled nursing facility is                                                                  
staffed with RNs or CNAs.  COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE replied a                                                                  
skilled nursing facility license is equivalent to a nursing home                                                                
license.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PHILLIPS asked if the lesser qualified staff at the Pioneer                                                             
Home were given a pay increase when they were given the duty of                                                                 
administering medications.  COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE said Senator                                                              
Phillips was actually referring to two separate issues.  CNAs                                                                   
dispense medications under the supervision and license of an RN.                                                                
After discussing that issue with families and staff, he agrees that                                                             
only RNs and LPNs should dispense medications in the Comprehensive                                                              
Care and ADRD Units, and that an intensive training program should                                                              
be offered to CNAs.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 373                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD interjected to ask what the Pioneer Homes' policy is                                                              
to reduce the number of medical error reports, and whether a                                                                    
security problem exists regarding medications in the facilities.                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE acknowledged that medication errors did                                                               
occur, and repeated his belief that allowing only RNs and LPNs to                                                               
administer medications will minimize the problem.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Regarding Senator Phillips' question about the pay raises, DIRECTOR                                                             
JIM KOHN stated each Pioneer Home has an assisted living                                                                        
coordinator.  The Anchorage Pioneer Home recently filled three                                                                  
assisted living coordinator positions. During the hiring process,                                                               
the Home decided the team leaders would best fit the positions so                                                               
three long-time staff members were reclassified and promoted.                                                                   
Those employees were LPNs.  Although their pay range changed from                                                               
13 to 17, the amount of their raises was minimal because their                                                                  
longevity had placed them at a step almost equivalent to a range                                                                
17.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 438                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked whether reluctance on the part of RNs to put                                                                
their licenses on the line and allow CNAs to administer medications                                                             
will have any effect on whether they are hired or retained.                                                                     
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE replied the employee should follow the                                                                
rules set by the Board of Nursing.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN questioned whether the Board of Nursing has taken any                                                             
action or a new position on CNA administration of medications.                                                                  
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE said it has not, and that he just began                                                               
to address the issue last week.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked what assurance of safety and quality care a                                                                 
level 4 or 5 resident can expect.  COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE                                                                    
replied he spoke with the daughter of the resident who broke her                                                                
hip after being pushed by another resident.  The daughter, an RN in                                                             
geriatric care, was remarkably understanding about the situation.                                                               
The daughter pointed out inadequate staffing lead to the problem.                                                               
He stated the 60 new staff positions requested in the FY00 budget                                                               
will increase the number of staff in the more critical wards.  In                                                               
addition, he and Deputy Commissioner Elgee have been looking at                                                                 
ways to concentrate more staff members in those critical areas.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 476                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD referred to a memo written by a Pioneer Home                                                                      
supervisor to the nursing staff directing that time spent on                                                                    
medical error reports be minimized.  He asked about that policy and                                                             
questioned what happens to prescribed narcotics that are not                                                                    
administered.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN replied the Pioneer Home policy is to write down any                                                                   
unusual occurrence regarding medications, whether harm was caused                                                               
or not, and include whether medications are given at the correct                                                                
time.  He explained if a medication is to be given at 8:00, it can                                                              
be administered between 7:00 and 9:00; that is hospital procedure.                                                              
If a medication is not given within that time period, a report is                                                               
written.  Often, the medication is given ten minutes after the                                                                  
allotted time span.  He noted the memo was written to inform staff                                                              
that if medications can be administered within the allotted time                                                                
span, that should be done, and medical error reports need not be                                                                
written.  He emphasized the Pioneer Homes' policy and practice is                                                               
to report any irregular activity regarding medications.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD again asked Mr. Kohn to speak to the issue of the                                                                 
security of drugs and what happens to drugs that are not                                                                        
administered properly.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN noted that the incident Chairman Ward referred to, in                                                                  
which a medication was left on a nightstand, involved an RN, and                                                                
was unacceptable.  MR. KOHN stated, regarding the security of                                                                   
medications, the in-house pharmacy allows restocking of some unused                                                             
medications if they remain in their original packaging and are                                                                  
untouched.  In the past when the Pioneers Homes contracted with                                                                 
independent pharmacies, all unused medications had to be destroyed.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked if an accounting of unused medications exists.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN said such a report is kept, and he would provide a copy to                                                             
the Chairman.  He added the in-house pharmacy has recently raised                                                               
the level of safety of unused medications.  MR. KOHN also offered                                                               
to provide committee members with a forthcoming report from Dr.                                                                 
Brad Williams, Chairman of the pharmaceutical department at the                                                                 
University of Southern California, who recently spent a week                                                                    
assessing the Pioneer Home pharmacies.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked if patients are charged for prescription                                                                    
medications they do not receive.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN answered in the past, medications provided by independent                                                              
pharmacies could not be returned, even if unused.  Most unused                                                                  
medications can now be returned to the in-house pharmacy.                                                                       
Inexpensive medications are not returned because it is not worth                                                                
the handling charge, but narcotics do not fall in that category.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked if patients were charged for medications they                                                               
did not receive and were disposed.  COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE                                                                   
stated they were charged for medications that were not worth the                                                                
cost of restocking.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD verified that COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE could supply                                                              
an accounting to the committee of when unused medications were                                                                  
disposed of, and by whom.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN clarified the Pioneer Home tracks all prescribed                                                                       
medications that are disposed of and a log is kept of medications                                                               
that are returned to the pharmacy.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked if the pharmacy at the Anchorage Pioneer Home                                                               
supplies drugs to the Anchorage and Palmer Homes.  MR. KOHN                                                                     
explained that pharmacy supplies medications to five of the six                                                                 
homes; all but the home in Juneau.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 99-7, SIDE B                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked why the Juneau Home is not included.  MR. KOHN                                                              
replied it will be after the first of July.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked if using the Anchorage in-house pharmacy has                                                                
resulted in a cost savings.  MR. KOHN replied the normal cost                                                                   
savings to residents ranges from 25 to 75 percent.  The in-house                                                                
pharmacy has a contract that allows it to buy large quantities of                                                               
medications at a very low cost.  About one-half of the residents                                                                
receive state assistance because they are no longer able to pay the                                                             
rate.  At that point, the state pays for the medications.  Keeping                                                              
the cost of medications down also enables patients to stretch their                                                             
money farther and stay off state assistance longer.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked if the pharmacy is licensed.  MR. KOHN said it                                                              
is.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked about the structure of the pharmacies.  MR.                                                                
KOHN explained prior to the creation of the centralized pharmacy,                                                               
the Pioneer Homes had six individual contracts with pharmacies; one                                                             
for each home.  Several problems existed with that system: some                                                                 
homes had difficulty finding a willing pharmacy to contract with;                                                               
uniform packaging of medications for ease of administration was                                                                 
difficult; and the homes needed pharmacy consultations geared to a                                                              
geriatric population.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN questioned whether the pharmacy manager at the                                                                   
Anchorage Pioneer Home is responsible for reviewing the records of                                                              
residents at the individual homes, and whether the manager is a                                                                 
state employee.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN replied two pharmacists are employed at the Anchorage                                                                  
Pioneer Home pharmacy and both are state employees.  They access                                                                
all residents' records through a statewide computer system.  All                                                                
medication orders are checked against the patients chart for                                                                    
possible drug interactions and polypharmacy.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 541                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE pointed out the centralized records are                                                               
useful for several reasons.  Contraindications are built into the                                                               
pharmacy system and several people track medical prescriptions for                                                              
residents.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked for a definition of "medications."  MR. KOHN                                                                
stated he was referring to FDA-approved medications and a few over-                                                             
the-counter drugs taken for therapeutic reasons.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked what practice is used to destroy drugs in                                                                   
nursing facilities and who is charged for the drugs.  MR. KOHN                                                                  
replied Medicaid provides a standardized amount of money for each                                                               
patient in a Medicaid facility, and those facilities struggle with                                                              
that method.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN noted the opening of the Anchorage Pioneer Home                                                                   
pharmacy was not without incident and conversations about its                                                                   
problems continue.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN agreed the opening of the pharmacy was a big undertaking.                                                              
However, he noted, no one suffered from not receiving medications.                                                              
He repeated the forthcoming report from Dr. Brad Williams should be                                                             
helpful to all involved.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 482                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD announced testimony would be taken from                                                                           
teleconference participants.  He informed those participants their                                                              
questions will be responded to in writing by Department of                                                                      
Administration staff.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KAREN ROBERTS, former Assisted Living Care Coordinator at the                                                                   
Palmer Pioneer Home, stated COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE's statements                                                              
have been directed to problems at the Anchorage Pioneer Home.  She                                                              
asked if  the problems at the other five homes will be addressed.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE replied most of the concerns expressed to                                                             
date have been about the Anchorage Pioneer Home so his immediate                                                                
focus has been on that home.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN recommended that the new policy on the administration                                                             
of medications be applied to the Palmer Pioneer Home immediately.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBERTS emphasized her belief that assisted living is a great                                                               
concept, but regulations need to be put in place.  She also asked                                                               
that management review the job classifications of range 17 LPNs.                                                                
She believes they are under worked and overpaid.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 440                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE informed Ms. Roberts he looked at that                                                                
issue and explained the State pay scale system with ranges and                                                                  
steps.  He noted that those LPNs received a minor pay increase                                                                  
overall.  He added the three coordinator positions are mid-level                                                                
management positions in a home with 226 residents.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LISA CARESS-BEU stated she has never received a credit for                                                                      
medications that were prescribed but not given to her mother at the                                                             
Anchorage Pioneer Home.  She asked whether she is being double-                                                                 
billed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN answered that any medications not given on schedule would                                                              
eventually be given.  However, if medications were returned to the                                                              
pharmacy, she should get a credit, unless the medication is too                                                                 
inexpensive to warrant the time taken to give the credit.  He                                                                   
offered to review her mother's medication record.  CHAIRMAN WARD                                                                
thought all records should be checked against the disposal                                                                      
documentation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARESS-BEU stated, regarding medication security, she has dated                                                             
photographs of a medication cabinet left open wide and also with                                                                
the key in the lock.  The most recent photograph is less than ten                                                               
days old.  She expressed concern that the medication security                                                                   
policy is not followed.  MR. KOHN suggested Ms. Caress-Beu tell                                                                 
someone right away.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 375                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD noted the State Affairs Committee's top priority is                                                               
the safety and health of Pioneer Home residents and that the                                                                    
committee is not interested in placing blame, but on getting                                                                    
resolution to the problems discussed.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE said he also saw an unlocked medicine                                                                 
cabinet while he was at the Anchorage home, and although he did not                                                             
believe the situation was dangerous, the cabinets should be locked                                                              
at all times.  He repeated his plan to only allow RNs and LPNs to                                                               
administer medications, and to provide a CNA training program in                                                                
alignment with the Board of Nursing policies.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 239                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PHILLIPS stated that it was not the previous witness'                                                                   
responsibility to do something about an unlocked medicine cabinet,                                                              
it is the responsibility of the Department of Administration.  He                                                               
added he heard more emotional complaints from constituents on this                                                              
issue than on any other, and it is DOA's responsibility to do                                                                   
something to solve the problem.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN apologized for giving the impression that he thought it                                                                
was the witness' responsibility.  He clarified he meant to empower                                                              
her to report such a situation immediately so that it can be                                                                    
corrected right away.  SENATOR PHILLIPS repeated DOA needs to                                                                   
investigate those complaints.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN stated the policy is to keep medication cabinets locked at                                                             
all times.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE to respond to a fax                                                               
from Marty Margeson regarding health and safety concerns at the                                                                 
Anchorage Pioneer Home.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE stated he met with Ms. Margeson and                                                                   
viewed photographs of her father.  He repeated that more staff has                                                              
been requested in the FY00 budget, and the increased staff will                                                                 
focus on the problem areas.  He added the resident who assaulted                                                                
Ms. Margeson's father has been moved to the Alaska Psychiatric                                                                  
Institute (API).  He noted Ms. Caress-Beu suggested placing video                                                               
cameras in residents' rooms so that residents can be observed by                                                                
nurses at the nurses station.  COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE stated he                                                              
can only try to make sure that resources will be allocated to                                                                   
protect the residents, and that is what he will do.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 239                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MARTY MARGESON stated a current resident caused injury to her                                                                   
father on three occasions and has harmed other residents.  The                                                                  
Anchorage Pioneer Home has responded by putting this resident on a                                                              
one-to-one staff watch, and physically and chemically restraining                                                               
the resident.  However, the harm continues because the techniques                                                               
are applied inconsistently.  She asked what DOA's plans are for                                                                 
this resident, and whether DOA will order the Pioneer Homes to                                                                  
provide a safe environment for all residents.  If violations occur,                                                             
those violations should be reported to the Ombudsman and licensing                                                              
board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE said he has no problem with a policy that                                                             
says that DOA wants to guarantee the health and safety of the                                                                   
residents, but he needs time to think about how that will be done.                                                              
In the case of the resident who continues to cause harm,                                                                        
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE said he will discuss the situation with                                                               
Mr. Kohn to determine the best course of action.  He reminded                                                                   
everyone that Alzheimer's patients sometimes become physically                                                                  
aggressive, and that he cannot make a snap decision about what that                                                             
patient needs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked Ms. Margeson if she was satisfied with                                                                      
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE's reply that he would review the                                                                      
situation and come to a decision expeditiously.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARGESON said she would like to know how families should                                                                    
respond when licensees violate policy and refuse to implement                                                                   
systems to protect residents.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN replied that the Pioneer Home reports violations to Adult                                                              
Protective Services (APS).  DOA does its own investigation and APS                                                              
has the option of doing a separate investigation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARGESON asked Mr. Kohn if APS would have six reports of                                                                    
violations against her father.  MR. KOHN stated he could not tell                                                               
her what APS would have.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD interjected that if no reports exist, then the                                                                    
procedure does not work and a new procedure must be part of the                                                                 
overall change.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 160                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
KATHY EMMONS from Eagle River asked why LPNs were hired to fill the                                                             
Assisted Living Coordinator positions at range 17, when RNs are                                                                 
paid at a range 15 and supervise LPNs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN replied the Assisted Living Coordinator position does not                                                              
require a nursing background, although it is helpful.  He explained                                                             
Assisted Living Coordinators do not supervise the professional                                                                  
nursing staff, they schedule activities and coordinate staff.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE pointed out that RNs receive about $1827                                                              
per pay  period and the Assisted Living Coordinators receive about                                                              
$1699.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. EMMONS said she has a problem with the fact that the Assisted                                                               
Living Coordinators who are LPNs are telling RNs when to make out                                                               
medication error reports.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD informed Ms. Emmons that COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE                                                                
would provide a response to her question in writing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BUD CARESS from Anchorage stated he met with COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE                                                              
POE last week and was very impressed with him.  He asked                                                                        
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE what the odds are that the FY 00 budget                                                               
requests for the Pioneers Homes will be granted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD interjected to ask COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE to                                                                   
address Mr. Caress' question and to sum up his proposed changes, as                                                             
those will have an effect on putting additional funds in the FY 00                                                              
budget for the Pioneer Homes.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE said he was optimistic that additional                                                                
funds will be added to the Pioneer Homes budget, even though it is                                                              
late in the budget process.  He clarified that the additional funds                                                             
are not in the supplemental budget, they are in the FY 00 budget                                                                
request.  The FY 00 budget contains funds for 60 additional                                                                     
positions, and that money would be available in July, 1999.  He and                                                             
Mr. Kohn plan to use those 60 positions to deal with the immediate                                                              
concerns in the ADRD and Comprehensive Care Units.  He pointed out                                                              
it will take time to research the dual model approach, including                                                                
the licensing requirements and other necessary changes.  He hopes                                                               
to talk to family council members this summer about alternatives to                                                             
solve the problems that are occurring.  He repeated he is                                                                       
optimistic about the FY00 budget increase because he believes                                                                   
legislators understand changes cannot be made without funding.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE concluded the Pioneer Homes would be                                                                  
improved by three changes: medication administration by RNs and                                                                 
LPNs only; dual licensing to include a skilled nursing facility                                                                 
license; and enhanced training for CNAs that is aligned with Board                                                              
of Nursing policies.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR WILKEN pointed out this Legislature funded a $500,000                                                                   
request in the supplemental budget for staff for the Pioneer Homes                                                              
and legislation has been introduced that will designate Pioneer                                                                 
Home receipts which will amount to $2.6 million in FY00.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD informed COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE that many people                                                               
are concerned about retaliation against their family members                                                                    
residing at the Pioneer Homes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN read a fax sent to the committee that said APS and                                                                
the Long-term Care Ombudsman have no reports of harm from the                                                                   
Anchorage Pioneer Home.  The sender asked what Commissioner-                                                                    
designee Poe plans to do to ensure that reports of harm get                                                                     
reported to the Office of the Long-term Care Ombudsman (OLTCO).                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOHN said he would be agreeable to having the OLTCO be involved                                                             
in reports of harm.  The current statute requires reports of harm                                                               
be made to APS.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked for a more detailed written response to                                                                     
determine what the Commissioner's intentions are.  He also asked                                                                
the Commissioner to explain his policy on retaliation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE POE said he talked with many employees and                                                                
others when in Anchorage, and he told them then, and repeats now,                                                               
that no retaliation will occur for honest discussion of the                                                                     
problems.  He also gave some of them his business card so that they                                                             
can call him directly if retaliation does occur.  He emphasized the                                                             
important thing to recognize is that frequently those who complain                                                              
are viewed as detracting from the positive things that are                                                                      
occurring.  He noted the criticisms do not make the statement that                                                              
the Pioneers Home is not doing good things.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD informed Commissioner-designee Poe that the questions                                                             
that were faxed to the committee would be forwarded to his office                                                               
for responses.  He then adjourned the meeting at 5:10 p.m.                                                                      

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